Join us for an Audacy Check In with Demi Lovato

Lovato details their new podcast '4D with Demi Lovato' and finding the joy in their non-binary identity
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These days Demi Lovato is doing it all. From dropping a deeply personal studio album and documentary that chronicles overcoming their 2018 overdose, to launching a brand new podcast, to deepening their activism work, to learning and discovering their own identity on the queer spectrum, Lovato is a modern-day icon.

Speaking with Audacy’s Ryan Mitchell, the singer started by discussing the inception of their podcast, 4D with Demi Lovato, and tells us, “podcasting seems to be the cool new thing.”

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They add, “I thought what is a cool way that I could continue my self-exploration and this journey of self-development?” Demi concluded that a podcast was the next logical step in their evolution, but needed to find an element that set 4D apart from all the other podcasts out there.

The artist tells us that the new project is centered around having conversations that aim to make the world a better place. Whether it be raising awareness around topics that “maybe people aren’t talking enough about right now or it’s my ultimate mission, which is to have conversations that elevate humanity into the next dimension, that is what 4D is all about.”

Typically, Demi is the one getting asked the interview questions, but with 4D, the “Dancing With the Devil” artist is in the driver’s seat. Lovato says it’s been an incredible learning experience and the new medium has allowed them to open up space to have profoundly intimate conversations.

When hearing 4D, listeners aren’t just getting a glimpse into the guest’s authentic self but they are also getting a real sense of who Demi is and what their world looks like now.

“I’m a very passionate person,” Lovato begins to explain. “I’m very outspoken about a lot of the things that I believe in and I feel like sometimes my message gets lost in translation over text…I find when I’m able to show the world my heart, it shows that my intention is coming from a good place. And so I wanted to have conversations that showed people that I really am invested in making this world a better place.”

The podcasting platform gives Demi the space to speak freely while allowing listeners to understand their vantage point. Demi’s podcast has become a space where being a “work in progress” is okay. Just as Lovato continues to educate themself, 4D is shaping up to be a tool where anyone listening can continue their journey on grappling with the politics and social issues that the human experience tends to bring up.

Using the Bigg Chill “froyo incident” as an example, Demi explains that “going forward I want to have conversations where people can see my face, they can hear my voice, and they can see that I’m still learning as well as the rest of the world. I’m no means an expert on many many things, but I’m willing to learn…”

Transparency has always played a dominant role, both in Demi’s career and in Demi’s persona. In 2021, the artist has taken the idea of being forthcoming to new heights, through their music, their documentary, and now their podcast.

However, Lovato notes that they never could have achieved this level of transparency without the support system built around them. “Luckily I have not only an incredible support system put in place, but a great structure around me.”

Lovato’s weeks are scheduled, even to their downtime moments. “I’m able to balance everything well because of the parameters I’ve put in place for myself,” says the musician.

“I think it’s important that I never lose that transparency with my fans because that’s what has brought me so close to them….keeping that line of communication open is important to me, just so that I’m constantly hearing feedback from them.”

Lovato’s biggest goal with their straightforward outlook is to ensure that they are always on the pulse of what is going on in the world and their career.

One of the most momentous moments of Demi’s transparency has been their coming out as using non-binary, “they/them” pronouns. Now, in the height of Pride season, Lovato shares, “since I’ve learned about gender identity more and learning about being non-binary, or gender non-conforming, I’ve used this time to explore what really feels right to me.”

They continue, “after a year and a half of exploration, I realized it was time to let the world know that it feels weird to me when I get called a ‘she’ or a ‘her.’ And I understand that people might have a hard time adjusting to it because it is something new, but I want to encourage people to keep trying….sometimes I still mess up myself.”

“I’m still, every day, stepping more and more into the identity that feels right to me, which is my pronouns being ‘they/them.’

Check out Demi's full interview above.

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