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They really are. So somebody raised a question over on the Common Sense Retirement Planning text line. It says, Charlie, the only way Lindsey Graham can get re-elected in South Carolina is if he would take out John Thune.\n\n00:32\nSo let me ask you that question.\n\n00:36\nIf Lindsey Graham came out um this afternoon, I mean, he gets back from Disney World, wherever he is, and he goes on television and he says, listen, we have got to do what this president\n\n00:55\nwants to do. We've got to get this president's agenda passed because John Thune is standing in the way of President Trump's agenda. I'm going to vote or I'm going to recommend that we do away with John Thune. We vacate the chair and we get a new Senate Majority Leader. I recommend Mike Lee. He's just, he's been the most vocal.\n\n01:27\nWould that be something that Lindsey could do to maybe go, all right, well, he did that. He did that. I will see. But Lindsey's got these things out there talking about doing away with sanctuary cities. That's not gonna happen, Lindsey. It's not gonna happen. Number one, it's not gonna happen. With John Thune as the Senate Majority Leader, because you're still gonna have those 60 votes, and you know the Democrats are gonna vote to do away with sanctuary cities.\n\n01:58\nSo...\n\n02:02\nWhy aren't you putting up that legislation now? Are you expecting to win big coming up in November in the Senate? Because I don't think that's going to happen either. I hope it does. Hope I'm completely wrong about that, but I don't think it's going to happen.\n\n02:21\nBut if we do win the Senate and maybe increase a little bit, you've still got the House to deal with and they're in trouble. We could lose seats in the House and the Democrats could take over. That means we're going to have impeachments. That means we're going to have all these investigations, all these hearings. You know how that's going to go.\n\n02:43\nSo the best thing, and again, the Senate right now has nothing to run on. They've only sent 34 bills to the president's desk. Lindsey Graham's out there campaigning on a bill that he hasn't even sent to the president yet.\n\n03:01\nThe only campaign or talking points that he has is they passed the one big beautiful bill. That's it.\n\n03:12\nThey've been working their tails off getting this legislation to you and nothing is passing. So if Lindsey Graham came out and said, know what?\n\n03:21\nCharlie, Lindsey Graham kicks out John Thune, he will nominate Tim Scott. You might be right. You might be right.\n\n03:30\nwould Tim Scott would be any better than I don't know. Let's go to Byron in Boiling Springs. Byron, welcome. Thank you for taking my call, Yes, sir. I have a suggestion for you on your idea of replacing John Thune. Okay. It's a little bit radical, but I think it would shake up that Senate people. I would put in J.D. Vance as the leader of the Republicans.\n\n03:59\nAs a Senate Majority Leader. Yeah. Yeah. a Majority Leader. He is the President of the Senate. They can't say he's not eligible. And obviously he's going to support Trump and he's probably going to kick some butt up there for those old guys that won't do what they got to do. That, mean, if you continue to put in these same people, they're not going to change.\n\n04:30\nYou might be right. You might be. I think it's a good idea. um So I appreciate it. Now, I've heard two different things. I've heard two different things. I've heard that you do not need to be\n\n04:49\na member of the Senate to be the Senate Majority Leader.\n\n04:55\nAnd then I've heard that you do. Now I know with Speaker of the House, Speaker of the House does not have to be an elected member of the House of Representatives. Article 1, Section 2 of the Constitution states that the House must choose a speaker. doesn't require them to be a representative. Although, all throughout history they have been. Now the Senate,\n\n05:19\nSo that might be a little bit different. That might be a little bit different, but we'll see. But something's got to be done. Got to be done. But here's the thing that happened again over the weekend. ah We told you that this was going to happen, predicted it, if you will, that the Democrats are going to be very upset that President Trump has found a way to pay TSA workers. They are very upset. Now, just think about this for a second.\n\n05:48\nPresident, all these TSA workers have missed two paychecks. About almost 500 of them quit their jobs. Lines are long out there. We got ICE out there helping. So President Trump comes up with a way with OMB to find some way to fund the TSA salaries. And you knew that the Democrats were going to scream about it. What did Democrats get out of this standoff?\n\n06:18\nYeah, well, Margaret, the standoff is not done yet, right? The president is illegally paying, apparently, TSA agents. You had the Senate, as you pointed out with Mr. Homan, pass a bipartisan bill unanimously in the United States Senate to say, look, let's fund everybody else and let's deal with this thorny issue about ICE. And then you had the Republican House say, hell no, we're not doing that. Did you see that bill that the Senate unanimously passed at 3 o'clock in the morning?\n\n06:48\nYou darn right the house said no.\n\n06:52\nBut then again, now they're complaining, complaining that TSA workers are illegally being paid. So all you TSA workers out there, the next time you go to the polls, remember who tried to get you paid and remember who fought against it. Let's go to Rob in Westminster. Rob, welcome. Hey, how you doing, sir? Good, bud. I'm thinking either John Kennedy or Kate Kreese, Senate Majority Leader.\n\n07:23\nLet's talk about Kennedy for just a second. Now he talks, oh I know, well, I love what comes out of his mouth. I'm not exactly crazy about how he votes. I'm not, not good. You watch the way he votes. It's not as conservative as you would think it would be. appreciate it. If you ask me, if you said, Charlie, we're going to let you appoint the next Senate Majority Leader, I'd go with Mike Lee.\n\n07:54\nGet Mike Lee in there, get the job done. We'll be right back. It's the Charlie James Show, News Talk 989, WOID, the voice of the Carolinas. Streaming the show this afternoon, not only on Odyssey and iHeart radio apps, we're also on Facebook, on YouTube, on X, on Instagram, and on Rumble. Go find us at all of your favorite locations. You can actually see the video of the program here. You're going to love that. Well, a lot of people have been out there, and I agree.\n\n08:26\nBecause now what did we like the second time?\n\n08:32\nunder the Democrats that we've had the longest government shutdown. The second time. And I agree with a lot of people out there. If you are, if the government is shut down, the members of Congress should not be paid.\n\n08:52\nyou if t s a workers aren't getting paid if border patrol is not getting paid if the coast guard fema if they're not getting paid you should not be paid but democrat adam smith he doesn't like that plan would you support the idea that members of congress are the ones that should not get paid if there's a government shutdown in the future i look\n\n09:20\nwe are trying to resolve differences that people have this notion that somehow congress is separate from the american people and we're holding it up because we just don't look there's a lot of passion on this issue you will agree with this i saw the interview that you did just before this people who want more enforcement i people in my district who are upset about what ice agents are doing and they want protection from that\n\n09:41\nwe're we're not fighting over who gets the tb remote but i'm just saying that if there's going to be another but like why should it be the tsa agents and those and and the government workers that are making a forty five thousand dollars a year they go a month without a paycheck that it matters to them absolutely yet though they should get paid but also it's kind of written into the constitution that you can't use the pay of representative as a leverage point on how to get policy but you can use it you can use the pay of the average american\n\n10:11\nas a leverage point, right? Yeah, that's right. Let's go to Beverly and found in Beverly welcome.\n\n10:19\nthink that the no paying Congress is wonderful, but I'm going to go way step further. None of their age should be paid. Capital police shouldn't be paid. Yep. The people who house keep at the Capitol should not be paid. Let those folks understand what other folks are going through. I agree. The whole kit and the boodle. If you can't figure it out, nobody's getting paid. I love that idea, Beverly. I think it's fantastic. Yeah, they shouldn't be able to go just go to work every day like nothing is going on.\n\n10:49\nRight? And not have other people suffer and have to take second jobs and get extra mortgages on their home or whatever. Let and I mean, I hate to be this way, but let the aides in Congress have to do that. And let's see how long the aides are quiet and don't harass Congress to get it done. You're right about that. Exactly. I appreciate it. Let's go to Joe in Rock Hill. Joe, welcome. Hey, Charlie. Hey, bud. You know, I'm trying to hear how they, know,\n\n11:16\nThey could have reformed ICE anytime they wanted. I have to tell you, the Republicans' messaging is horrible. Yeah. Because nobody cared when Obama got out five million people, 76 people were shot during his operations. And great did I get, it was a while back and not everybody had a cell phone and filming everything. But, you know, this is just getting so out of control that, you know, the Republicans sit back on their hands.\n\n11:45\num And that Senate bill that was passed in the middle of the night, it's just, it's a horror show. It really is. And as bad as we are, Democrats, I got to find out, we got to find out how they get all these messaging out because we got to find out whatever app they're using because they're like talking robots and they're the same talking points from everybody. They stay together thick as thieves. You're right about that. it's just, it's, I mean, it's like they get an email. This is what you're going to say today.\n\n12:14\nand they all get it and they all get out there and they just they just mockingbird the same thing. So you're right about that. reasonable people. Yeah. Listen, if you take those two situations, first of all, know, Alex Freddie was no angel. don't even get listen, I'm a licensed carry holder. I would not engage law enforcement in the manner that he engaged that he spit on a federal officer. That is assault.\n\n12:41\nYeah, he should have been arrested right then and there and should have been charged. And he was, he was detained. He was detained and he fought that detainment. Same thing with the other lady, whatever, Good. Same thing with Miss Good. She was detained. When that officer told her to stop, that's detainment. That's right. But when he was detained, they knew that he had a carry permit. It should have been revoked right then and there, engaging law enforcement in that matter. Because they have very...\n\n13:11\nThey have a lot of strict rules about what you can do when you are a perp carrying concealed carry weapon. Yeah. Okay. And if you're engaging law enforcement in that matter, and I heard there was a couple other instances too, that that should have been one of the first things done. Now, were mistakes made? Yes. We don't want to see anybody die, but you know what? You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes, and we need to get better messaging out there. I have no problem with forming ice, making them wear body cameras, but\n\n13:40\nPeople that are alluring people that are here illegally and all this, they should have been arrested already and these things should have been shut down six months ago. Yeah, I agree. I agree, Joe. I appreciate it, man. But that's the thing. When do mistakes happen? When people do stupid things. Ms. Good, she did a stupid thing. When she was told to stop, that's when you stop. Alex Pretti, stupid thing.\n\n14:12\nWhen you don't follow the rules, when you don't follow the law, stupid things get hap... they happen and sometimes they happen to you.\n\n14:24\nBut like I said, I mean, so now maybe, maybe now ICE is going to be mostly actually funded for the next three years. Watching minutes ago, the Senate adjourned for recess as Congress remains locked in a deadlock over DHS funding, failing to bring the government shutdown to an end. With us in studio, Congressman Adam Smith out of Washington, top Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee and sir.\n\n14:51\nNice to see in person. Thanks for having me. So anyway, they're talking about bringing out, Republicans aren't talking to the Democrats anymore. That's over. It's done. Now they're going to try to move forward with a plan to fund ICE for the next three years through budget reconciliation. Maybe they could do the same act that the Save America Act the same way. We will see. But there's still another one. There's still another, if this doesn't work, there's still another one.\n\n15:21\nthat they can use coming up, I believe it's April the 16th or the 19th, the FISA warrant act, the FISA act, sunsets. Now this is something that the Democrats, oh they want it so bad because that will allow them to spy on you.\n\n15:39\nAnd this is a must pass piece of legislation. Maybe the Republicans could sneak it in there. We will see. We'll be right back. It's the Charlie James show. News Talk 98.9 WORD, the voice of the Carolinas. All right. Welcome back to the program. And now, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the speaker of the House of the sovereign state of Jamestown, J.R. in Westminster. How you doing, J.R.?\n\n16:09\nDarling, my friend, listen, better than I deserve. Now, I'm at, of course, I'm always at your disposal. So I don't know if there's anything that we need to address with respect to uh Jamestown business here in this office. Well, let's talk about these no-kings protests that were going on. mean, when you really listen to what some of these people were saying, I mean,\n\n16:38\nNo, almost no African-American showed up at these no Kings rallies. This one woman says that that was because the black people will be the first to be arrested. I know, right? I'm telling you, in all seriousness, and I'll segue to this point.\n\n17:08\nThere is no premium. It is the white liberal, ah literally. It is troublesome. They're a danger. And even in here in South Carolina, and this is just, uh I've just serving notice to all the Charlie James listeners, we have a number of Republican uh lawmakers and those that are pursuing office.\n\n17:38\nthat are facing democratic challenges. And so there's a lot, there's a truckload of outside money coming in. Yeah. Yeah. And listen, man, there, listen, and if people are asleep at the wheel, there, there is a concerted effort to try to overtake the great state of, of, of South Carolina, of which Jamestown is, you know, is within that domain. Yeah. But we're not going to let it happen, but\n\n18:08\nThis is just, you know, I mean, listen, we have you that are keeping us informed. We're in the information age, man. Listen, stuff is available at your fingertips. Do your homework. You know, all of these attack ads and all of these smear campaigns, you know, you know, if people are already in office.\n\n18:27\nThey have records, they have voting records. You can look that stuff up. You can find out where they, no matter what a commercial says, you can find out exactly where these people stand and what they represent and if they're representing your best interest. And even if they're so-called, you know, GOP or Republicans or RINOs, look, people do your homework. Be vigilant, be vigilant. And especially\n\n18:50\nYou know, this coming June in primary and in November, get off the couch and go vote, man. Go vote. know, and I'm doing the best I can, but my shoulders are only so big, Exactly right. Exactly right. J.R., I appreciate it as always, buddy. You have a great evening. So let's go to Fort Mill. Let's go to Fort Mill. They had the big Nose Kings rally. And listen to this. I mean, if you want to know.\n\n19:21\nexactly why these people were out there protesting this mother and daughter they explain everything to you are you ready is from w cnc got mom and daughter i'm assuming correct you are there and my name is melissa group melissa and mea group mea we're gonna start with mea mea right out here\n\n19:45\nUm, to protest and get a, make a better democracy. And your sign, this is a together sign, guess. Explain your together sign, Mia. Um, so it's supposed to be about like...\n\n20:00\nWe get to make a statement and they just silence us and they don't get to do that. We have the right. You have the right to do that. Melissa, just what does it mean for you to have your little one out here today? And how important is it for you?\n\n20:17\nWell, I have three girls and so it is so important to build a better future for them. We are here to be the light, not to squash it out. And so it means everything to have my daughter with me. Now I'm looking at your signs. Who put it together? Whose idea was this? Tell me. This is your idea. Tell me about it. How'd you come up with this idea? Um, I just, I just looked up some ideas and I just put it together. How does it feel to be her? See that explains it all.\n\n20:46\nI looked up some ideas and I put it together. That's brilliant. There's mom, I got three daughters, we're here to be the light. What light? Explain to me. Ma'am, your daughters are better off now certainly than they were under Joe Biden. Absolutely. So the world that you're actually\n\n21:12\nwanting to go towards, which by the way, they're out there, they're waving their communist banners, their Hezbollah flags, their Iranian regime flags. Why aren't you protesting the Iranian regime? Why aren't you doing that?\n\n21:30\nthough I am no sense whatsoever. That that little girl, mean, that's unfortunately, hopefully somewhere along the way she will see the air of her ways. Oh, there you go. Now everybody was talking about how many protesters they had. Listen to this also from WCNC.\n\n21:51\nalso from fort mill about all the features of this so tell us where you were you from and doesn't matter and charlotte north carolina my name is michelle was so i come to for this time actually at the beginning of the people here and uh... my friends here as well and we're here exercising our right of freedom of speech in a peaceful protest i'm unhappy with the current administration and we believe in freedoms and we're here to make sure that our voices heard again what freedom\n\n22:20\nsomebody tell me what freedom have you lost under Donald Trump? Anybody? Can anybody tell us? I can tell you a bunch of freedoms you lost under Joe Biden, especially during COVID. I can tell you a bunch of those freedoms. What freedom have you lost under Donald Trump? Just give us a list, some sort of a list saying, listen, under Donald Trump, lost the freedom to, but here's what they always do. If you ask them that question,\n\n22:49\nbecause they always do this with Donald Trump. I'd get these people, tell me, Donald Trump is racist. So, that's interesting. um Can you tell me something that Donald Trump has done that would be considered racist? Oh, well, if you have to ask that, there's just no talking, they never, ever, ever.\n\n23:15\ngive you an example because they don't have one. They were pawns used by 500 groups with three billion dollars in revenue and they were heavily funded, heavily funded.\n\n23:35\nThis is not a grassroots protest that took place this weekend. It was an organized protest and we know it. We'll be right back. It's the Charlie James Show, News Talk 98.9 WORD, the voice of the Carolinas. So 284 sent me a text over on the Common Sense Retirement Planning Text Line said, Charlie, you won't let people call in and tell you what freedoms they lost. Okay, let's do it. 800-90-50. oh\n\n24:05\n9 8 9. That is the call in number. Tell me what freedom have you lost under Donald Trump? Do do do do do do do do do do do do do that. No call. Silence. So then I take it back. I said, tell me right here. Just tell me right here. I read it on the air. Tell me what freedom you have lost.\n\n24:35\nunder Donald Trump. And yes, I know we're on a bit of a delay, sometimes up to 40 seconds, but just let me know. Which one of these freedoms have you lost?\n\n24:46\nI mean freedoms.\n\n24:49\nthe ones that are included in the Bill of Rights. Where are they? Which ones have you lost? Have you lost the freedom of speech? No. Have you lost the freedom of the press? No. Have you lost the freedom to peacefully assemble? No. Have you lost the right to keep and bear arms? No. You've lost none of your rights. Has the government\n\n25:18\nquartered soldiers in your home? No, that hadn't happened? Oh, okay. Just tell me. Come on, man, I need it. I need to know. What freedoms have you lost? These people are out there. Oh my goodness.\n\n25:44\nWhat about unreasonable search and seizures? No. Do process. Have you lost your due process? No. You lost your right to a speedy trial? No. Jury trial? No. Excessive bail? No.\n\n26:00\nNo, you haven't lost any of your rights under Donald Trump, but they want to think they have. Charlie, if anything, we've gained freedoms under Trump. You're exactly right. Charlie, they just hate for the sake of hating. Yup. You're exactly right. They hate for the sake of hating.\n\n26:22\nPeriod.\n\n26:24\nSo, ah really, the folks on the left.\n\n26:31\nYou can't reason with somebody that does not work within the realm of reason.\n\n26:38\nThey're so eaten up with Trump derangement syndrome that they can't see, they can't think or talk straight.\n\n26:49\nAnd again, these no-kings protests? This is another example of social contagion. In fact, let me just say this.\n\n27:03\nLiberalism is social contagion. That's what it is. It's just like the whole trans community. When everybody, all of a sudden, everybody was trans, not everybody, but you know what I'm talking about. Trans people popping up everywhere, and now, now, like, that's dying a slow death. Who are they? All right, we got Janice in Gastonia. Janice, what?\n\n27:30\nfreedoms have you lost you know i think i'm going to go to state i appreciate your patience you taught me a lot charlie i got\n\n27:43\nWell, how can you follow a cult leader? I said, I'm not going to have this conversation with you or use names. And he said, why do you call you any names? I said, Nope, she called president of our country. Yeah. That's last I heard from. Yeah, exactly right. They can't debate. All they know how to do is throw names and no facts. Yeah, you're exactly right. No facts. Exactly. Janice, I appreciate it. Love this text. Love this text. Charlie.\n\n28:12\nSome of the things on the list of freedoms you cited were taken away from Trump himself. If anything, the Democrat Party took freedoms away from Trump.\n\n28:24\nfreedoms you would not want taken away from you. Charlie, can I help them out? The freedom to think for themselves. Oh, they have lost that. They've definitely done that. be right, oh, when we get back. If I were a member of the United Methodist Church yesterday, I would not be one today. I'll tell you why. 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