Welcome to 'Midday Shenanigans Wit Poe.' where today we aren't skimming the surface. I sat down with Iyanla Vanzant — yes, that Iyanla — and we talked about everything - from her new book *Spiritual Hygiene*, which is more about real clearing out than bubble baths and cute quotes. We also discussed emotional build-up and how to honor what we've survived without letting our scars define our identity. One of my favorite parts of our conversation, though, was discussing whether control issues are really just fear in a blazer— and breaking down why fixing the outside eventually just doesn’t cut it. If you’ve been side-eyeing your own patterns lately? If you’ve been feeling stretched? Press play.







