Pat Leonard of the Daily News came out with an expose on Monday that seems to indicate there’s much more than meets the eye with the Giants/Wink Martindale divorce, putting onus on a head coach in Brian Daboll who has ‘no composure’ according to one source cited by Leonard, and exhibits behavior that multiple unnamed coached told Leonard was ‘destructive.’
In discussing it on Monday evening, Evan Roberts (a Jets fan, to be fair) said he has ‘more concerns than I did two hours ago’ – but Tiki, the ex-Giant, wonders if all we’re seeing is the fruit of some sour grapevines, perhaps from some of those no longer under Daboll or the Giants’ employ.
“We're talking about the NFL - this is a results-based business, and if you don't win enough, you get fired. I don't care how nice or kind or whatever you are, you get fired,” Tiki said. “The guys who are not here and who are probably talking poorly about Brian Daboll deserve not to be here, so if you're gonna take those complaints and use them as ‘he's mean,’ sorry, I'll be mean then, right? I want my coach to hold people in those situations accountable. If not, stop being soft, do your job or get out.”
Actually, if it is sour grapes, then yes, Evan agrees.
“If this is coming from those that got fired, I completely agree with you - I don't want to hear from you,” Evan said. “You deserve to lose your job, the Giants weren't good enough and now you sound bitter – but if it’s coming from people in the building, that's concerning.”
“Why would you say something like that if you were still in the building? That doesn’t make sense,” Tiki replied. “It’s 2024, you’re going to get found out, trust me.”
Evan’s response was that maybe they want Daboll to act differently, but as Tiki said, why not just go to him and say that? It would be a concern to Tiki if indeed the sources were still there, but this does happen other places, and he has thoughts on it.
“When I hear of things like this, because it's not just the Giants, this happens everywhere...I think those people are extraordinarily selfish,” Tiki said.
And yeah, Shaun agrees about this being a non-concern, and not just because Morash is a Daboll-ganger.
“We already have the proof that this story is a nothing burger, and this isn't me shilling for the Giants,” Shaun said. “They hit a point in the season where everybody could have took their bags, basically went home, and stopped trying, and instead they blew up everything I wanted in my face. They beat two playoff teams down the stretch in games that those teams needed to win, and played their ass off with a third-string quarterback, winning three straight. If Daboll was that difficult to work with in what was already a lost year, the Giants' players aren't fighting like Hell and winning any of those games.”
Because news flash: winning cures all ills, but losing magnifies them.
“He's probably a hard-ass, but news flash: when things aren't going well, bosses tend to be douchey, and I’m sure he was,” Shaun said. “If he's holding coaches accountable, we want coaches to be held accountable, because the position stuff doesn't go through that. This sounds like a lot of sour grapes from people who thought it wasn't their fault, and didn't like it getting the hard business.”