We open the hour with the first batch of messages recovered from Anthony Fauci’s government phone and released by Sens. Ron Johnson and Rand Paul. The crew focuses on a January 2021 discussion involving Fauci, Rochelle Walensky and Vivek Murthy in which Fauci raises a theoretical first-trimester miscarriage concern tied to fever and an intense immune response after a second COVID shot. That gets compared with Fauci’s public messaging at the time, while we also hear Dr. James Thorp offer a heavily disputed interpretation of pregnancy data that produces an 80-plus-percent figure.
Dawn brings a deeply personal perspective to the subject as she discusses her own history of miscarriages and what pregnancy loss means to families who have already seen ultrasounds, heard heartbeats and begun planning for a child. Nick’s central complaint is transparency: medical officials do not have to be perfect, but Americans need access to conflicting evidence and changing guidance. We then move into the Trump administration’s childhood-vaccine order and RFK Jr.’s announcement of new autism research awards, while debating mandates, parental choice and the difference between established childhood shots and newer recommendations.
Dawn walks through Pennsylvania school requirements for DTaP, polio, MMR, hepatitis B and varicella, while the crew discusses separating doses, newborn hepatitis B vaccination and the long-term damage created when public trust collapses.
Aug 11, 2026
