Ken and Lima dig into Andrew Berry's press conference claim that the trade essentially happened because the Rams were persistent and the media reports made them call, and Lima is not buying a single word of it. Ken takes Albert Breer's version over Berry's, arguing the real story is that there were probably two teams Miles would ever accept a trade to, the Rams and the Eagles, and Berry quietly had conversations with both while keeping it contained enough that it never blew up publicly. The Eagles counter offer rumor gets aired out, with Ken noting that if the Browns asked for Jalen Carter and the Eagles offered Nolan Smith Jr, those were two very different valuations of Myles Garrett, and nobody is ever going to admit what actually happened in those conversations. Ken closes with the Denzel Ward tell, pointing out that Berry conspicuously did not say no when asked about Ward at his press conference, which means Browns fans should probably get comfortable with the idea that this whole conversation is going to start all over again by November.
Andrew Berry Lied to Us! Can We Ever Trust Him Again?

Executive vice president, football operations & general manager Andrew Berry of the Cleveland Browns looks on during a voluntary veteran minicamp at CrossCountry Mortgage Campus on April 21, 2026 in Berea, Ohio.
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