Ken and Anthony dig into national criticism of Donovan Mitchell's new deal, playing audio of CBS's Sam Quinn calling it a contract that won't age well, before pushing back that virtually every non-Jokic, non-Wembanyama max deal will get the same treatment going forward. A caller named Jeff argues Evan Mobley, not Mitchell, needs to take the leap offensively for the Cavs to become real contenders, leading Ken to float a thought experiment about how differently we'd view Mitchell with a stronger supporting cast like Jalen Brunson's. The segment shifts to the Browns, where Ken poses a provocative question about whether Jared Verse could ultimately become more beloved in Cleveland than Myles Garrett if he provides leadership and winning, prompting Anthony to call the framing a disservice that sets Verse up to fail by comparison.
Could Jared Verse End Up More Beloved Than Myles Garrett?

Jared Verse #8 of the Cleveland Browns runs a drill during the Cleveland Browns OTA Offseason Workouts at CrossCountry Mortgage Campus on June 03, 2026 in Berea, Ohio.
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