Jared Verse's comment that sacks aren't a testament to how he plays drew heat from fans still craving a Myles Garrett-style pass rusher, but Ken and Anthony argue the new scheme and teammates deserve more patience. They debate how long that patience lasts, floating 10 sacks as a fair bar given Verse's workload is split with a deeper defensive line. A caller weighs in comparing Verse's winning mentality to Garrett's stat-focused leadership on losing teams, sparking pushback from Ken on that read of Garrett's legacy.
Jared Verse Doesn't Care About Sacks... Should Browns Fans?

Jared Verse #8 of the Cleveland Browns looks on during warm ups prior to the game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Raymond James Stadium on September 20, 2026 in Tampa, Florida.
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Published Sep 25, 2026, 08:11 AM ETUpdated Sep 25, 2026, 08:10 AM ET
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