Hall of Famer Joe Thomas joins Ken Carman and Anthony Lima to discuss the Browns' quarterback competition, explaining that Deshaun Watson's experience navigating new offenses and big games gives him an edge over Shedeur Sanders heading into camp, while cautioning that trading Sanders for anything less than a first round pick would be premature given how little the team actually knows about his ceiling. Thomas identifies the defense, not the offensive line, as Todd Monken's biggest challenge as a first year head coach, pointing to the loss of Myles Garrett and a new defensive coordinator as reasons the unit could take a step back even as the offensive line improves with veteran additions and position coach George Warhop. He also defends Warhop against analytics based criticism, details his Hall of Fame Farms Wagyu beef promotion ahead of July 4th, and shares the story of representing American agriculture at a White House roundtable. The segment wraps with a lighthearted bit about whether Browns swag could help the hosts talk their way out of a speeding ticket.
Joe Thomas: Trading Shedeur Now Would Be Crazy

Head coach Todd Monken and Shedeur Sanders #2 of the Cleveland Browns watch a drill during the Cleveland Browns OTA Offseason Workouts at CrossCountry Mortgage Campus on May 27, 2026 in Berea, Ohio.
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