Anthony Lima and Nick Pedone hash out whether the Browns are still rebuilding or signaling they're done with it, with Pedone pointing to the Myles Garrett trade for Jared Verse and three picks as the "final move" of the rebuild and the Ward/Delpit extensions plus Clowney interest as proof they're now trying to win. Lima pushes back that the Browns bailed on Travis Hunter and this year's top receiver/tackle prospects in favor of extra picks, calling those clear tanking moves, while both agree Mary Kay Cabot's point about needing to sell PSLs and premium seating now, ahead of the 2029 stadium, undercuts the "they don't care until 2029" theory. They briefly detour into Caitlin Clark free-agency speculation and a WNBA Cleveland team before circling back to the core tension: strong young talent across the roster undercut by a genuinely shaky quarterback situation, with Lima reiterating Vegas's 5.5-win total feels right given how bad Watson looked in the first practice
Mary Kay Cabot: Don't Overreact to Deshaun's Picks After 1 Practice

Deshaun Watson #4 of the Cleveland Browns throws a pass during Cleveland Browns Training Camp at CrossCountry Mortgage Campus on July 29, 2026 in Berea, Ohio.
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By The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima
Published Jul 30, 2026, 09:30 AM ETUpdated Jul 30, 2026, 09:28 AM ET
The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima
The only place to talk about the Cleveland sports scene weekday mornings is with Ken Carman and Anthony Lima from 6-10a! The show guides you through…




