ESPN NFL reporter Stephen Holder joined Afternoon Drive on The Fan to talk about the Browns' interest in Colts special teams coordinator Bubba Ventrone, the likely timeline for a hire to be made, Ventrone's rise early in his coaching career, Shane Steichen's hire as the Colts' head coach, whether there's a possibility of C.J. Stroud landing in Indianapolis in the draft and how aggressive the Colts will be in getting their quarterback.