Zac Jackson of the Athletic joins Ken and Lima to explain why the Browns are 2-1 despite Deshaun Watson's shaky film, crediting a dominant pass rush led by Mason Graham, Watson's fourth-quarter scramble plays, and a defense that adapted to injuries. He says Watson's odds of being back next year remain slim and that Kevin Stefanski likely wouldn't have gone down this road, since every bit of evidence he has says Todd Monken made the quarterback call. They also preview a huge Thursday night game against Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers, then detour into Mount Union's ranking in the Bill Conley 772 and the Akron coaching jokes.
Zac Jackson Says Stefanski Would Never Have Started Watson

Deshaun Watson #4 of the Cleveland Browns celebrates the 21-18 win Carolina Panthers at Huntington Bank Field on September 27, 2026 in Cleveland, Ohio.
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Published Sep 29, 2026, 09:49 AM ETUpdated Sep 29, 2026, 09:47 AM ET
The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima
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