Ken Carman and Anthony Lima dig deeper into Zac Jackson's claim that Dillon Gabriel was an organizational pick rather than Kevin Stefanski's, questioning why Andrew Berry would spend a top-100 pick on a player immediately labeled a career backup on a three-win team. They debate whether that framing will haunt Berry if Gabriel never develops, drawing a parallel to the pressure on Spencer Fano and the front office's uneven draft history at wide receiver and offensive line. The two also predict the Browns will use at least three quarterbacks this season, referencing the Myles Garrett trade as evidence the front office already knows this year isn't a real Super Bowl window.
Was Dillon Gabriel Really an "Organizational Pick"? Ken & Lima Don't Buy It

Dillon Gabriel #6 of the Cleveland Browns throws a pass during the Cleveland Browns Training Camp at CrossCountry Mortgage Campus on August 03, 2026 in Berea, Ohio.
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Published Aug 11, 2026, 09:16 AM ETUpdated Aug 11, 2026, 09:15 AM ET
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