In this segment, guest host Heidi Harris discusses 16-year-old Oregon school shooter John Griffin II, noting his vacant expression and comparing it to a relative who struggled with severe mental health issues and suicidality. She highlights his mother, Chante Nickerson, and details from a 2020 article about Griffin's participation in a special education "NEST" program during the COVID-19 pandemic. Harris criticizes the societal push to mainstream children with severe behavioral or mental health needs into public schools without adequate specialized environments. She also points out the correlation between family dysfunction or divorce and youth crises, questions why the mother purchased a 12-gauge shotgun for a troubled child, and praises Caleb Ciamanco, the armed bystander on his lunch break who intervened and stopped the shooter.
Oct 16, 2026
