A former Air Force intelligence officer told a House Oversight Committee panel Wednesday that the U.S. is hiding a long-running retrieval and reverse engineering program for unidentified aerial phenomena, more commonly known as UAPs or UFOs. He also claimed the government had recovered “non-human” remains from some of the aircraft.
Nick Pope, who ran the British Ministry of Defence’s UFO project in the 1990s, told KNX In Depth's Chris Sedens and Charles Feldman it was a “bombshell” to hear those statements in an official congressional hearing, especially coming from an intelligence officer who has verifiably worked on UAP investigations.
“All these rumors that we’ve heard for years about recovered craft and non-human intelligences, as he puts it, all those rumors are apparently true,” Pope said. “That was put on the congressional record formally today.”
The whistleblower, David Grusch, served as an intelligence officer in the Air Force for 14 years, serving on two Pentagon task forces investigating UAPs. His claims were backed up by two former Navy pilots who had personally encountered unidentified objects.
While Grusch didn’t go into much exact detail during the public hearing, he said he knew the “exact locations” where recovered UAPs were being kept and had provided that information to the intelligence committees. He also confirmed he knew people who had been harmed in an effort to cover up the truth about UAPs.
“You don’t do that under oath unless you are very, very sure of yourself, not least because it would be breaking the law,” Pope said.
In his own time investigating UAPs for the British government, Pope saw some “intriguing evidence,” including aircraft flying at speeds that went “way beyond the cutting edge of what the laws of physics seem to say is possible.”
He says people shouldn't dismiss whistleblowers like Grusch just because they haven’t yet brought forward any hard proof.
“An analogy I use is that when I worked at the UK Ministry of Defence, lots of people in the headquarters building worked on nuclear policy. Very few of those had actually touched a nuclear bomb or missile. But of course, it didn’t mean these things don’t exist,” he said. “Just because we've not yet seen the smoking gun, doesn't mean it’s not there.”
Rep. Tim Burchett said he hopes this is “just the beginning of many more hearings” into UAPs. Pope said the House and Senate armed services and intelligence committees will also need to be involved in the investigation, considering the security clearances necessary to access some of the information.
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