Watch as Olivia Rodrigo spills her lyrical 'GUTS' to Kelly Clarkson

'I just think it’s not classy to come out and say it’s about this person'
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During a recent appearance on the Kelly Clarkson Show, Olivia Rodrigo and the “Since You’ve Been Gone” singer talked about swapping Twilight-themed in-ears for something more cosmopolitan, gave new insight into a couple of the lyrics on her sophomore album GUTS, and more.

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After chatting about her previous tour’s Robert Pattinson purple in-ears and showing off her latest Sex and The City-themed Kim Cattrall ones, Olivia broke down a few lyrics from her latest album, GUTS, first talking about the lyrics outro to fan-favorite track, “Lacy" -- “And I despise my jealous eyes and how hard they fell for you / Yeah, I despise my rotten mind and how much it worships you.” Rodrigo laughed and said, “very emo of me, writing that.”

Explaining its origin, Olivia shared, “I took a poetry class at USC... I wrote a poem called ‘Lacy’ for one of the assignments, and I really liked it. I’m like, ‘I’m gonna turn it into a song!’”

As per ushe, the emotive ballad has inspired many a fan theory regarding its subject, with speculations that the name “Lacy” is code for Taylor Swift, Gracie Abrams, or Sabrina Carpenter — iykyk.

Speculations aside, Olivia remains steadfast about keeping who her songs are about a secret. That being said, the 20-year-old superstar did recently tell the Los Angeles Times she quite enjoys when fans craft “more creative answers to who Lacy is,” such as her past self.

“I just think it’s not classy to come out and say it’s about this person,” she added at the time. “I also think that would set a weird precedent where I’d have to clear the air with every song I write.”

Clarkson also asked Olivia about her opening GUTS track, “All-American B****,” which veers between ethereal choral moments to screamed grungey punk parts. Rodrigo opens by singing, “I am light as a feather, I’m as stiff as a board,” a play on the name of the children’s sleepover game involving lifting up a friend as a group with players using nothing but their fingertips.

“I always thought it was a really interesting phrase, I’ve been meaning to fit it into a song for a long time,” Rodrigo said. “[The game] seems kind of impossible. So I thought it was a good way to describe the impossible standards that are set for us as women.”

Watch Rodrigo break down her lyrics below.

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