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Glad to have you along with us. Lots, lots, lots, lots of uh scheduled for this afternoon as the 8th congressional district here in South Carolina has our daily meeting. We appreciate you tuning in. Thank you very much. Well, President Trump is going to be addressing the nation tonight um at nine o'clock. We will be carrying that address.\n\n00:29\nright here on News Talk 989W ORD. And a lot of people are wondering, like, what's he going to be talking about tonight? What's he going to be discussing tonight? And we, you know, probably several different things he's going to be talking about. Number one, probably going to be talking about Iran. um And that's what we're hearing is that he is going to be discussing Iran. But we don't know what he's going to say. Is he going to say that the war is going great?\n\n01:00\nIs he going to say the war is coming to an end? Is he going to say we're going to send ground troops, which I think I think that would be a very bad announce. Or is he going to come on and say, listen, we've already sent ground troops in and this is what we've been able to accomplish with some of our Navy SEALs and Delta forces and all of that stuff. So nobody really knows what he's going to talk about tonight, but what he might be discussing this evening as well.\n\n01:30\nis the Artemis 2. This thing's going to be blasting off just a little before 6 30 this afternoon. It's going to be heading to the moon. It's going to be returning on April the 10th. That's a pretty long mission there. So again, are they going to go like 200,000 miles or something crazy like that? So this will be the first time that we have been back technically to the moon.\n\n01:59\nin a long time, they're not going to be landing, not going to be a moon landing or anything like that. um But it's going to be very interesting to see, very interesting to watch. So our thoughts and our prayers absolutely go out to these astronauts because they are literally, I mean, I remember, who was it? it John Glenn? I can't remember which astronaut said it. He said, remember, boys, we're sitting on a rocket that was built by the lowest bidder.\n\n02:28\nAnd he was exactly right. Let's go to Ray in Clinton because this is something else we're going to be talking about coming up in just a little bit. Birthright citizenship. Welcome, Ray. Thanks for taking my call. the TV uh and the people from the Supreme Court trying to uh somehow bring reasoning to this birthright citizenship. can only\n\n02:57\nsay one thing from history, and I know it's true, because I was a student of uh the college of Ben Franklin. And Ben Franklin said, if you keep bringing people to this country, they will outnumber us someday and take over. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. You're right about that, Now, the whole question behind birthright citizenship is the phrase\n\n03:28\nand under the, basically under the jurisdiction thereof.\n\n03:34\nThat is, that's going to be kind of the sticking points. Now, also, today, Katanji Brown Jackson has proven that she is not fit by any stretch of the imagination to be a Supreme Court justice. She said something today that everybody just kind of went, what in the world? I have that clip coming up for you in just a little bit.\n\n04:03\nBut this woman is an absolute moron.\n\n04:07\nWell, also, Justice Alito did a great job today, but we'll see how they rule. I'll give you my honest opinion. I don't think they're going to rule with President Trump on this. I think birthright citizenship is going to stay. I don't believe his attorneys are putting their best case forward. When an attorney says, I'm going to have to look into that. Yeah. uh\n\n04:34\nThat's not a good thing. And President Trump was there today, too. Also, coming up tonight at the Newberry Opera House, we have got a um governor's debate. It is going to start right around seven o'clock. Josh Kimball is going to be there. Nancy Mase, Ralph Norman and Alan Wilson, Pamela Evitt and Rob Reddy will not be in attendance at this um debate tonight at the Newberry Opera House.\n\n05:00\nBut four of our governor's candidates are going to be we're to see what they have to say And I think I've really figured out because the dark money has already started Dark money is already coming out against Ralph Norman. You got to remember What what I am looking for in a governor? Like the number one thing I'm looking for are you going to fight the rhinos in Colombia?\n\n05:30\nAnd anybody that gets up there, know, Ralph Norman's got these ads about, you know, uh their pay raises. When you speak out against the RINOs, they're going to come back at you because they really love the power that they have in Colombia. So keep an eye on that because they got a good thing going in Colombia. They got a real good thing going. They don't want anybody to upset it. That's why they come out and they come out hard.\n\n05:59\nagainst anybody that stands up against them. And that dark money is already flowing in the governor's race and it's going to flow even more. It's really, it's, oh, watch it. It's going to get loud. All right. So we got that coming up. President Trump also yesterday signed an election integrity executive order. Of course, there are going to be tons of judges lined up to fight that. um So.\n\n06:26\nI'll give you a little more information of that. But if you thought, let me just add something. I will guarantee you, if you talk to somebody from another state, let's say you talk to somebody from Wyoming about South Carolina, it's good conservative in Wyoming, you say, hey, know, we got some real problems in our state. That person would probably say, why, wait a minute, why do you have problems in your state? You guys are Ruby Red there in South Carolina, aren't you?\n\n06:56\nI mean, you guys are very conservative, aren't you? Well, the answer to that would be no.\n\n07:03\nand we have had more proof over the past couple of days that we are not a red state and we have got a state legislature that acts purple on a good day and blue on their worst days. And that's the way they have acted over the past couple of days. You see, they are there. I mean, this is a group of people\n\n07:33\nthat gives Democrats way too much control, they give them way too much power, and they bend over backwards to make them happy. So if you guys were thinking, hey, I wonder if we're gonna be complying with the one big beautiful bill, know, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, tax breaks for senior citizens, all of that good stuff, the answer to that would be no. No, we are not.\n\n08:02\nThe House voted for it. The Senate shot it down. Coming up in just a little bit, we're going to talk with a couple of people about what happened in Columbia yesterday. And it really is ridiculous. We'll be right back. This is the Charlie James Show, News Talk 98.9, WORD, the voice of the Carolinas. I think I got it figured out. I think I got it figured out. I've been a little thick, been a little thick in the old noggin.\n\n08:31\nbut it finally dawned on me last night. I was sitting around, I was thinking about the upcoming elections, thinking about the primaries, thinking about the midterms, thinking about all of this. And one of the problems that I've really had here in South Carolina is where are our voter drives? Who is getting out there registering people to vote?\n\n08:59\nas Republicans. Where are the Republicans out there going, hey, hey, would you like to register to vote? Hey, we're the Republican Party. We would love for you to come register to vote. You never see that. Now, if I were the chairman of the South Carolina GOP, I would be like, if we had any rodeos, I would be there. Gun shows, I would be there. Farmers markets, I would be there. Flea markets, I would be there. I would be just about everywhere you went. You would see\n\n09:28\na voter drive booth. And then I was just kind of thinking about that last night. It just hit me. It just struck me. Oh, I get it now. Now I get it.\n\n09:41\nThey don't want new people voting.\n\n09:45\nThey don't. They don't want new people voting. They want the same old people that have been voting because they know exactly how the same old people are going to vote. And they know exactly who the same old people are going to vote for. They don't want new blood. They certainly don't want change. They certainly don't want any... um\n\n10:16\npossible.\n\n10:18\nassault on their power. That's a weird thing to me. I'll be honest with you, I've struggled with that. I've struggled. Why aren't there more voter drives? And then last night I was like, duh, duh, Charlie. They don't want new people voting.\n\n10:40\nThat group, by and large, and you can just carve out the Freedom Caucus, everybody there just about, except for the Freedom Caucus and some members of the Family Caucus, everybody that's there are the people they want there.\n\n10:58\nThey want them there. They want the Davy Hyots there. They want the Merle Smiths. They want the Mike Kukaskis. They want those because they know how they're going to vote.\n\n11:14\nOkay, so you thought South Carolina was a red state. You were wrong. And when I say you, I mean all of us wrong. We are purple at best.\n\n11:30\nOur South Carolina legislature has done a couple of things over the past couple of days. You know, the one big, beautiful bill that was going to give tax cuts to uh overtime pay, they were going to cut taxes on tips, they were going to give more tax breaks to senior citizens and things like that. Well, that is not happening. That is absolutely not happening.\n\n11:58\n27 members of our Senate voted against that. 27 members of our Senate. The yeas were 16, the nays were 27. And of course, there's Larry Grooms in the middle of them, of all the nays. So you just kind of sit back and you go, what in the world is going on? It literally is crazy. So if that's not bad enough,\n\n12:29\nThey have come up with this ridiculous tax bill H-4216. Now they marketed it as tax reform. It's going to be a big tax reform. Yeah, we got a big tax reform bill going on right now. It's going to be tax cuts for everybody. But it's not. They promised tax cuts for everybody, but no. If you are a family,\n\n12:57\nmaking between $100,000 and $320,000, dual-income households, families with kids, homeowners, you're gonna get a tax increase. Congratulations, your taxes are going up, thanks to the so-called conservatives in Columbia. Takes away child tax deductions, takes away mortgage interest deductions, takes away other common write-offs.\n\n13:29\nAnd then they keep talking about doing away with the state income. Listen, that's not going to happen either. You can forget that. Oh, we're going to get, we're going to do away with the state income tax. No, hell, you're not. No, you are not. It's not, you can see all you, all you candidates for governor that are going to be at the Newberry Opera House. You can just stop saying that. Stop it. Just don't even make that promise anymore.\n\n13:57\nWell, Pamela Evans said she's going to get it done in 100 days, no, you are not. You are not going to get it done in 100,000 days. Because these people in Colombia, they don't want it to happen. It really is unbelievable. We are, and it's frustrating. I know it's frustrating. I'm with you on that. It's frustrating. So we got that new bill. We killed the basically, basically\n\n14:27\nHere in South Carolina, the one big beautiful bill does not exist. It's as if it never happened.\n\n14:34\nBecause they don't get it. Because that brain trust in Colombia thinks they know more than President Trump and all those members of Congress who decided this would be a good thing for Americans.\n\n14:47\nWell, Columbia decided it would not be a good thing for South Carolinians. So none of that, none of that has happened.\n\n15:01\nThat makes that, I'll be honest, that ticks me off. It really does. I hope every single, I don't have a complete list of who is running, but I hope every single person, every single member of the Senate that voted no,\n\n15:24\nBrian Adams, George Kampson, Tom Davis, Jeff Graham, Daryl Jackson, Shane Martin, Russell Ott, Ed Sutton. um\n\n15:39\nO'Courter Walker, Carl Allen, JD Chaplin, Tameka Isaac Devine, Larry Grooms, Michael Johnson, Shane Massey, Ronnie Saab.\n\n15:55\nDion Tedder, Kent Williams, Sean Bennett, Thomas Corbin, Billy Garrett, Brad Hutto, Matthew Lieber, Margie Bright Matthews, Everett Stubbs, Ross Turner, and Jeff Zell. I hope every one of you has a primary opponent, every single one of you, and I hope you lose. I hope you get sent packing.\n\n16:24\nbecause it is quite obvious that they do not have, and I'll be honest with you, if Governor McMaster, because he signed this debacle, if McMaster was governor, I'd be calling for him to be primaried as well. It's a darn shame we can't do that, but a good thing that he's leaving.\n\n16:45\nIt is the most frustrating thing in the world. in South Carolina, the vast majority of us, unbelievably conservative. Something about drinking out of that river down there. Let's go to Carl and McCormick. Carl, welcome.\n\n17:13\nthey don't have all the power enough to do anything. They have no excuses. Are you talking about Washington or Columbia? Well, both. Well, Columbia is a lot different because they got a lot of power in Columbia.\n\n17:29\nBecause they don't have enough. Well, they choose to give it away. Absolutely. There's just a bunch of John Thunes down there. That's all there are. We've just got a whole bunch of John Thunes down in Columbia giving away the power.\n\n17:49\nDemocrats, at least you know what they stand for. These round-up Republicans, they're worse than the leftist Democrats are. Yeah, yeah, you're exactly right. oh So it's time to vote all of them out. I agree. I agree. And I certainly hope on June 9th that happens, Carl. I appreciate it. Absolutely. That's why if you want real substantive change here in South Carolina, you got to get out and vote on June 9th. You got to.\n\n18:18\nAnd you got to remember those names that I read out. You got to remember these people. Because they had a chance to help you. And they chose not to. They chose not to help you. Because they didn't want to. Unbelievable. We'll be right back. It's the Charlie James Show, News Talk 98.9, WORD, the voice of the Carolinas. All right, let's go to the WORD Talk line. We'll talk to Will in tailors. How you doing, Will?\n\n18:49\nCharlie, I'm excellent. had tried to call oh Bill Brady show. Yeah, earlier. Excuse me. Get my throat clear. oh My main mission is to ask people to call Senator Graham's office at 202-224-5972 and ask him to resign.\n\n19:18\nand not stand for reelection. Yeah, I don't know if you've met Lindsay, but I don't think that's going to happen, Will. But it would be nice for him to let, you know, everybody let him know that that's what they want. Appreciate your call. Well, President Trump is uh went to the Supreme Court today and the liberals lost their minds. They did. What is the president doing at the Supreme Court?\n\n19:45\nHe's not supposed to be there. We've got separation of powers here in this country. The president's not supposed be in the Supreme Court.\n\n19:57\nThese people are so stupid. Did you know that they have a chair in the Supreme Court that is reserved for the President of the United States? Exclusively reserved for him to come and witness oral arguments? Yeah, it's there. It's for him. So if\n\n20:25\nThe president is not supposed to be in the Supreme Court. Why would you put a chair out for him? Just because nobody's done it in a long time doesn't mean he can't. So he was in the Supreme Court today for oral arguments. And this is pretty amazing. Even the Wall Street Journal, this is from Randy's commentary from Randy Barnett. Trump is right on birthright citizenship. The 14th Amendment,\n\n20:55\ngrants citizenship to persons who meet two conditions. Number one, birth in the United States and number two, subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. Now the dispute is going to come over the meaning of that term. Everybody agrees that that excludes at least three different classes, children of diplomats, children of soldiers from an invading army,\n\n21:24\nand Native Americans maintaining tribal relations. In each of these categories, the status of the child depends on the status of the parent.\n\n21:36\nThe debate is about the original concept in the text that explains these exclusions and whether that concept embraces or excludes children born on U.S. soil to parents who are unlawfully or temporarily in the U.S. See, the court has never squarely addressed this question. Before President Trump's executive order, what originalist, the\n\n22:03\nThe scholarship that existed on the original meaning of the subject of jurisdiction was sporadic and it wasn't really tested at all. The past years produced an explosion of originalist scholarship on both sides. The justices are now in a good position to decide which side has presented the stronger originalist case. Kurt Lash of the University of Richmond has examined the congressional debate over the 14th Amendment and the Civil Rights Act of 1866.\n\n22:31\nThat act declared that all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power are citizens. The 14th Amendment was intended to constitutionalize, not alter, the Civil Rights Act. Congress reenacted the same language after the 14th Amendment was adopted, suggesting an identical operation, but the drafters of the 14th Amendment\n\n22:56\nsaw a need for constitutional language that more clearly excluded the children of tribal Indians. Senator Lyman Trumbull, who managed the Citizenship Clause in the upper chamber, explained that subject to the jurisdiction meant not owing any allegiance to anybody else, whether to a tribe or to a foreign power. Representative John Bingham of Ohio, the moving force behind the 14th Amendment, used the same framework referring\n\n23:26\nAfter ratification, the persons born in the U.S. has not owing allegiance to any other power. These statements and others, Mr. Lash identified, demonstrate how leading Republicans explain the concept of the text, and they're absolutely right.\n\n23:44\nopponents.\n\n23:46\nDon't agree with it.\n\n23:49\nThe Supreme Court endorsed the concept of jurisdiction in Elk v. Wilkins, which excluded tribal Indians from birthright citizenship. Justice Horace Gray didn't say that jurisdiction means being subject to ordinary criminal civil law as opponents of the president's order maintained. But here's the\n\n24:06\nWe've got Katanji Brown Jackson. We all know she is not the brightest bulb on the tree. She tried to explain what jurisdiction and allegiance mean. And I want you to listen to what she said. I was thinking about this and I think there are various sources that say this, that you can have, you obviously have permanent allegiance.\n\n24:33\nbased on being born in whatever country you're from. That's what everybody recognizes. But you also have local allegiance when you are on the soil of this other sovereign. And I was thinking, you know, I'm, I'm, I, a U.S. citizen, visiting Japan. And what it means is that, you know, if I steal someone's wallet in Japan, the Japanese authorities can arrest me and prosecute me.\n\n25:03\num It's allegiance meaning can they control you as a matter of law? my God! Is that the dumbest thing you've ever heard of in your life?\n\n25:16\nAllegiance, somebody needs to give her a dictionary and just let her look up the word allegiance. This is the same woman that, know, hey, she's not a biologist. She doesn't know what a woman is. So if you go to Japan, you steal someone's wallet and they can prosecute you, that shows that you're under their jurisdiction? No, no.\n\n25:45\nBoy, she is dumb. She really is dumb. The 14th Amendment was put there to make sure that the children of slaves born in this country were American citizens. That's what it was about. It was never intended for illegal aliens. There's a Chinese guy that has had, and this is actual truth,\n\n26:14\nThis guy has had 100 children from surrogates. 100 children from surrogates here in the United States. He did this on purpose. These children are now, if the Supreme Court goes along with all of this, um goes along with the Democrats, the folks on the left, if birthright citizenship continues,\n\n26:44\nthese children, who by the way, he shipped off to China, they are still American citizens and they could return and vote someday against your kids.\n\n27:00\nAllowing birthright citizenship allows people born of illegal aliens to vote higher taxes for you, to vote less freedom for you, to vote fewer rights for you.\n\n27:19\nbecause they've got allegiance to another country. That's all this is about. That's all. I mean, how much allegiance do they have? I mean, when you see these rallies, these ICE rallies, these ICE protests, what are they? They're always flying the flag of another country. That doesn't sound like allegiance to me. We'll be right back. It's the Charlie James Show.\n\n27:40\nNews Talk 98.9, WORD, the voice of the Carolinas. The Artemis II scheduled to blast off in just about a little over two hours from now. We'll kind of keep you updated on that. Also, don't forget, President Trump going to be addressing the nation tonight at nine o'clock. We will have that address right here on News Talk 98.9, WORD. We'll talk about that coming up in just a little bit. But tonight, Newberry Opera House.\n\n28:08\nThey've got the first South Carolina GOP's got the first of their presidential, their gubernatorial debates. There are more going on. We'll highlight those coming up. we've got Josh Kimball, Nancy Mace, Alan Wilson, Ralph Norman are going to be participating. Pamela Ebbett and Rom Reddy are not going to be participating. And let's listen to Pamela Ebbett give her reasons for not being at the Newberry Opera House tonight.\n\n28:37\nWait a minute, hold on, where are you? Gotta turn the volume up here. Here we go. Not like the fact that there was a price tag, not associated for me going to the debate, but if my supporters, those grassroots people who put out signs and make phone calls and show up at GOP meetings, there wasn't a mechanism to get them there. Those are the people that deserve to be in an audience if you have an audience debate.\n\n29:05\nYeah, and she's exactly right. Now, the SCGOP\n\n29:14\ndid do something last week, they decided to remove all the barriers to candidate participation in the first debate. The first debate, originally they had, you had to have $100,000 worth of donations and 500 of those and 500 individual donations of $50 or more, something like that. was pretty, and then you had to buy seats and you had to do all of this other stuff. A lot of people complained about that.\n\n29:45\nand they waived the previous rules, you know, about the fundraising, the polling requirements on participation, and now every candidate can be on that stage if they want to. the thing that is really frustrating is like this is a members-only event.\n\n30:06\nNow we certainly hope that the governor is not going to be a members only governor. This is a governor for everybody in South Carolina. When you have gubernatorial debates, they should be open to the public. Yeah, if you want to have people go online and reserve tickets, that's fine. You can certainly do that. If you want to have certain tables or certain seats closer and sell those to whatever, yeah, you can do that. I don't care.\n\n30:35\nBut there needs to be a space for everybody to come in and watch the debates. Yes, it's going to be streamed. It's going to be streamed. But everybody should have the ability to go to these debates. They got one coming up at the Anderson Civic Center. That's open to the public and it's free. And I believe they've got everybody there except for Rahm Reddy. He might, he just hasn't said yes yet.\n\n31:03\nLet's go to Don and Fountain Inn. Don, what do you think, pal? Hey, I wanted to talk about the primary. oh I initially was somewhat interested in the ready campaign and I thought he appeared really fresh and an outsider, which I consider good. But I got the following them and they kept sending me my positions on things.\n\n31:32\nAnd they said, what's your most important issue? And I said, ah closed primaries. Right. And they responded back via a couple of messages back and forth that he is absolutely opposed to closed primaries. Really? Yes. That's interesting. And it is to me.\n\n32:01\nAnd I texted back and said, I don't know if I was talking to AI or a person or what. I said, well, then I will be supporting somebody else. they said, they text came back. Well, we'll agree to disagree because he believes in not impeding voter access. Huh.\n\n32:29\nSo, yeah, that is interesting. It got found to be the exact opposite of what he was saying. Don, let me ask you something. Do you have the ability to send me that exchange?\n\n32:47\nI will try. uh Do you have an email online? Absolutely, I do. It's Charlie at 989word.com. 989word.com. All right, I will look for it. uh But I mean, I think I can. This exchange was a text, but uh and I know I could forward you the text.\n\n33:14\nYou can't do that on our text line. can't. We can't get. Yeah. Just if you could take a screenshot of it off of your phone and email it to me, that would be absolutely fantastic. Don, I appreciate it. JJ, I've got something for you to do now. We had RomReady on the program not long ago, just a few days ago. Can you look at those transcripts? Because I could have swore he said that he was foreclosing the primaries here in South Carolina. So let's let's\n\n33:43\nWe will have, but so let's find out about that. All right, we'll take a quick break and be right back. 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