Welcome to Midday Shenanigans Wit Poe, where today we aren't skimming the surface. I sat down with Iyanla Vanzant — yes, that Iyanla — and we talked about everything - from her new book *Spiritual Hygiene*, which is more about real clearing out than bubble baths and cute quotes. We also discussed emotional build-up and how to honor what we've survived without letting our scars define our identity.
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One of my favorite parts of our conversation, though, was discussing whether control issues are really just fear in a blazer—and breaking down why fixing the outside eventually just doesn’t cut it. If you’ve been side-eyeing your own patterns lately? If you’ve been feeling stretched? Press play.