Licensed psychotherapist and theologian Dr. Cherry DeVore Estelhomme joined “Let’s Talk About It With the Turners” for a wide-ranging and deeply reflective conversation centered on menopause, perimenopause, postmenopause and andropause.
Dr. Cherry provided clinical insight while blending emotional and spiritual context, addressing both women and men navigating midlife hormonal changes. The Turners emphasized the lack of language and understanding many people experience around menopause and its impact on identity, relationships and purpose.
Dr. Cherry began by explaining the biological definition of menopause, describing it as the natural end of ovulation accompanied by hormonal shifts that affect mood, sleep, memory and emotional regulation. She stressed that common symptoms, including irritability, fatigue, hot flashes and anxiety, are physiological responses rather than personal or spiritual shortcomings.
“This is not weakness,” Dr. Cherry said.
She outlined the stages of hormonal transition, noting that perimenopause often begins in a woman’s late 30s or 40s, menopause typically occurs around age 51 and postmenopause represents a new long-term baseline. According to Dr. Cherry, these stages are not brief moments but sustained seasons that call for adjustment rather than resistance.
Throughout the discussion, she emphasized that menopause represents completion, not loss. Drawing parallels between scripture and physiology, Dr. Cherry framed menopause as a pause in planting, a pause in producing and a perfecting of purpose. She explained that while the reproductive role concludes, other forms of fruitfulness, including wisdom, leadership, creativity and legacy, continue to grow.
The conversation also addressed practical guidance for navigating these transitions. Dr. Cherry encouraged listeners to reduce unnecessary commitments, prioritize sleep and hydration, manage stress and set clear boundaries. She emphasized that rest and recalibration are not signs of failure, but necessary adjustments as the body and mind shift.
Attention was also given to andropause, the gradual hormonal changes experienced by men. Dr. Cherry explained that men may experience reduced libido, irritability and shifts in self-identity, often tied to long-held beliefs about purpose and masculinity. She encouraged open communication between partners and redefining intimacy beyond physical expression.
According to Dr. Cherry, these changes often deepen men’s focus on legacy, family and long-term purpose, challenging common narratives about disengagement. She highlighted emotional presence, connection and intentionality as essential components of healthy relationships during this stage.
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