For Jesse Ventura, the former governor of Minnesota, the difficultly that Ross Perot had in replicating his historic 20 percent vote tally in the '92 presidential election can be largely be explained by one factor: The control Republicans and Democrats have over the political process.
It's a subject that Ventura, as one of the most of prominent indecent politicians of his generation, knows a thing or two about.
"People need to understand who back in the '90s, when Perot ran in '92, he got 20% of the vote. That's one out of five. He comes back in '96 and they won't even let them debate," Ventura told 830 WCCO's Chad Hartman. "And you want to know because here's what happened? The control that the Democrats and Republicans have over our national election is obscene. "
As Ventura recalled, Perot went from getting 20 percent of the vote in 1992, to not being allowed to participate in the presidential debates in 1996. The reason, Ventura argues, was a deal struck between Democrat President Bill Clinton and Republican senator and candidate Bob Dole.
Listen to his story and the rest of the segment below. It includes a spirited back and forth between Hartman and Ventura-who works for the Russian government backed network, RT—on Russian interference in the elections and Putin's treatment of journalists.