Daryl Ruiter: The Browns do not need an up and comer. They need a complete culture changer; Grant Udinski and Nate Scheelhaase don't have that resume.

Jimmy Haslam, co-owner of the Cleveland Browns, speaks with defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz prior to the game against the Cincinnati Bengals during the game at Huntington Bank Field on September 07, 2025 in Cleveland, Ohio
Jimmy Haslam, co-owner of the Cleveland Browns, speaks with defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz prior to the game against the Cincinnati Bengals during the game at Huntington Bank Field on September 07, 2025 in Cleveland, Ohio Photo credit Jason Miller / Stringer

In filling in for Ken Carman and Anthony Lima on a Friday morning, Daryl Ruiter and Nick Pedone argue about the type of coach the Browns need to hire. Daryl argues against inexperience, while Nick tries to make a case for why someone like Grant Udinski or Nate Scheelhaase could turn this team around.

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